Could someone explain what this to do with moneyback?

It would make sense to ban Professor Buckie from this topic for obvious reasons.

WoW Hacker.... I never thought I'd see the day you said that ?

I agree, eye opener what has the contract clause to do with money back ?

The English edition appears to be out now as some have commented on having it. Will it be posted in here ?

It appears that some are saying it was won on a document not even disclosed to clients by A&M ?

Apparently, some have documents in the form of e-mails stating "When they took their money" They were in a strong position of winning ?

I have however directed a few to the VVOG for further correspondence with others in this ruling !

A&M have a lot to answer for here ? Was it a case they knew the out-come and used this situation to take more money from clients ?

Yet another case of Incompetent Solicitors acting as if they don't know what there doing !

I’m sure Andy won’t mind, refreshing everyone’s memory with this …

What I can tell you is, your contact is very clear and there is no doubt that if you are phase 1 with completion originally stated for 30 Sept 08, Tecnicil are in breach and I do finally think they are admitting that. Tecnicil will obviously claim FM, as this will automatically relieve them of their responsibility to refund double deposit and I understand why they would want to do that. That said the FM argument has to be proved and it is your choice to challenge it if you wish. Should they prove it, the contract still states that you are entitled to money back, if you go to court, yes, it may take years and I again can't comment if Tecnicil would want to go down that route or not, but it wouldn't be too great for their name commercially I guess. But make no mistake that you signed a contract based on the clauses within it and it is they, not you, that have breached those clauses, so the courts will see that you are only acting as per the agreement that you entered into. If the contract had been any different or certain clauses been missed out, would you have signed it?

Reply from Tecnicil ….

Word for word;-

It is Tecnicil's understanding that, only it is true that property has not been delivered on time, there can be no doubt that it will be delivered to you. As a result we do not believe this small delay can be viewed as a total breach of contract and so your request for cancellation and return of funds should not be met.

Furthermore, it is our belief that the forecasted date for conclusion of the works is well within the parameters of the international construction industry.

We do recognize; however, is our obligation to pay compensation to our clients for the period of the delay. This compensation will be calculated at Euribor plus 5% for the sum you have paid to us to date.

Kind Regards

NO MENTION OF ANY OTHER HIDDEN DOCUMENT ?

it may help

Good to see it's back on track(moneyback) although I always believe that Tecncil will do all in there power to avoid paying any moneyback.
The the best option to chase MRI thought the courts ,like what's happening
With the furniture case,and what Chrissie doing.

Lol a magic peace of paper that has nothing to do with the contract it just keeps getting better what a joke corrupt Cape Verde is nothing but a hole full of thieves and con artists how much pressure was put on A&M to agree to having it does NDR etc have this magic peace of paper as well?

Well Mac that seems to be the problem here ! NO other Solicitor or their clients have commented as if they are in the same boat ?

The question I asked, although very heavily, criticised for all the wrong reasons, has never been answered in here ! I asked was this decision made before the bench ? I’ve had loads saying it was a ruling … I didn’t ask that, I asked before the bench. It’s not I’m doubting anyone, and it appears that a decision has in fact been made, but no-one has said Where, When this took place ! It would be on the rulings, even in Portuguese !

Also no-one has said Who in fact were there to make the decision also !!! One of the Arbitrators must be a judiciary, you’re A&M and Tecnicils Solicitor ? It helps Tecnicil a great deal with the Arbitration being the last word on any matter.

All I’m trying to establish is if in fact the Arbitration hearing was conducted Lawfully ?
It does appear if this ruling was done in a Lawful manner, Cape Verde is indeed a very corrupt place, and this will have serious implications on people buying out there and indeed even going there ! I hope the other Solicitors are looking very closely at this and trying to find out what this mysterious piece of evidence is that’s not even in the Contract ? It does sound very suspect with this whole hearing, that no one was notified in advance over ?

Buckie

Why don't you just post the results of the arbitration hearing on here?

All you would have to do do is ask the permission of the person that has sent it to you.

Then nothing would be hidden....simple!

Here is attached the english translation, I am sure you would like to read and comment on.

A&M are offering a supreme court action and are doing it for free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The sooner its out there the better as far as I am concerned. It may be of interest that the Foreign Office website advises not to buy in CApe Verde, so it starts for them and will get worse i am afraid if the CV government dont step in.

Where on the foreign office website does it advise not buying property in Cape Verde? Could you post a link I can't find it?

I was advised by the foreign office when on the phone to them that it was on there website, not looked for it just took their word for it

Sorry everyone i can't load up the file tried three times

Rick could you forward it to ...

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cheer's

Rick.

www.fcc.gov.uk

Cape Verde Travel advice

Propert Issues

Hope that helps

www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living-abro...an-africa/cape-verde

There you go Peter ...

I see it advising caution and using a lawyer, but can't find the bit that advises not to buy. Could this be on another page?

Oh I see Buckie

I guess because you are asking Rick to send you the report, you didn't have it previously?

Odd that, as you kept commenting on it as though you did!

Pity they didn't do that 5 year's ago, before MRI bullshit us all with their lies,

Doesn't make you want to jump into buying in Cape Verde never mind Villa Verde does it at least the problems are being highlighted by our own country its getting so bad.

General - Purchasing Property

The following information is intended to be initial guidance; you should always seek expert advice and guidance when purchasing property. This is not intended to be the only guidance to follow when considering buying a property in Cape Verde.

Before you buy

Before you buy, you should seek legal advice from a lawyer who specialises in property conveyance law and who is independent from any other person in the transaction, for example independent from the estate agent, vendor and developer. Many buyers, particularly those who buy off-plan, experience problems with their property, such as long delays, incomplete builds and developers not having enough money to complete projects, Some buyers are also experiencing disputes over ownership of land, partial or non delivery of property management contracts and inflated guaranteed rental returns.
Research all aspects of your prospective purchase thoroughly before entering into any contracts, by making sure the appropriate searches are carried out in advance of an exchange of contract, or before entering into any binding agreement. Do not sign any papers or hand over money until you have taken independent legal and financial advice.
Although the British Embassy cannot recommend a lawyer, we do have a list of English-speaking lawyers and qualified translators available on our website. We also have a section on the practicalities of buying and selling property in Cape Verde on page 16 on our ‘notes on Cape Verde for British Nationals’. See details on our website.
Property Issues

If you have purchased a property or land in Cape Verde and are encountering difficulties you should be aware that resolving disputes through the courts in Cape Verde can sometimes be costly and time-consuming. We are aware of cases that have taken a few years to obtain a decision from the Courts. If you experience property problems in Cape Verde seek independent legal advice. A list of local English speaking lawyers is available on our website pages.
The UK Government is not able to become involved in individual cases of property disputes or become involved in steps to recover any capital outlay in respect of individual property deals that have gone wrong. Many thousands of British nationals are involved in criminal and civil cases around the world every year and we simply do not have the resources or the legal powers to judge the merit of such cases.
Financial Services Authority (FSA): The FSA has an online form for reporting unauthorised overseas firms targeting UK consumers. It would be of assistance to the FSA if you would provide some information on your dealings with the firm involved, which may lead to them being added to the list of unauthorised individuals and firms operating in the UK. Please note that once submitted the FSA will only contact you again if they require further information.

In other words don't buy here they are as corrupt as f$*k

Anyone thinking of buying outside the Uk be mad now,after whats happened in different countries.
Corruption unlimited prevails.
That be a good name for MRI